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Published on January 24th, 2013 | by -swansong-
Sandy Hook Witness: Barbara and Rob Sibley Interview with Katie Couric
In this article we will go over the Sandy Hook witness accounts and statements of December 14th 2012. In this interview with Barbara and Rob Sibley, Katie Couric conducts the sort of interview we’ve come to expect from her and her ilk. I have taken it upon my self to re-run the interview here with my thoughts and questions placed where they would have been were Katie Couric a motivated journalist. Read the Sandy Hook Witness accounts below.
Barbara and Rob Sibley Interview with Katie Couric
Katie Couric – Your son forgot something on Friday morning so you went up to the school and when you got there you knew something was amiss, to say the least. What did you see?
Barbara Sibley – There were like 8 or 10 kids who were like, running basically towards the firehouse and I obviously thought that was odd…
So you didn’t pull over or even roll down your window to ask the children if everything was ok, you just kept on driving to the school?
Barbara Sibley – …but when I got out of the car and started walking towards the building I noticed a car in the drop off area in front of the entrance like a black hatchback had all the doors open and like black sweat shirts strewn around it and again I thought, that’s really odd you don’t usually see that at the school.
You didn’t hear a sound? No screaming? No gunshots? Nothing alerted you to the events going on?
But she did see “like, a hatchback with all the doors open and like, black sweatshirts strewn around.” No pictures of which I am aware from Dec. 14th show the subject vehicle with the doors open.
At this point I will include what has become a rather vexing issue for me. This collage of photos will show the subject vehicle at various times/places/angles and I hope that you can follow my train of thought. It was the comments of Mrs. Sibley that brought the subject back to my mind.
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I will be the first to admit I may be up a tree with this and if so I will admit such upon evidence to the contrary.
In the photo top right you will notice the subject vehicle obviously covered in dust. Top left you will notice a clean vehicle. As mentioned by Mrs. Sibley there are, what appear to be, sweatshirts on the ground. Notice in the top right photo there are no sweatshirts.
The photo bottom left was taken the day the suspect vehicle was towed away, which I think (and this may be where I go up the tree) was the next day and it had rained the previous night (Dec 14th) and into the next day (15th). You will notice it is clean and wet.
My question is…if we conclude the dusty pictures are the “before” and the clean pictures are the “after”, why are the sweatshirts only visible in the “after” photos?
Barbara Sibley – And then I walked to the doorway and there was another mom standing there…
Let us reflect on that statement for a moment. She has just driven down Dickinson Dr. and was met by a group of children fleeing the school. She gets to the school and finds a woman standing there. How long had this woman been standing there? She must have seen the children run from the school? She may even have see the shooter enter. Why was she still standing there?
Barbara Sibley – …and all the while I’m thinking to myself “the building is so quiet and why is it so quiet”, and I said to her “is there something going on” and she goes, “I don’t know but look”, and she pointed and I looked and next to the door where there’s a buzzer, you have to buzz in to the building, the whole plate glass window to the right of the door was shattered and there was glass everywhere and we looked at that and we said well this is really strange…
Again, very interesting commentary. The shooter had entered the school. Glass had been shattered…but neither Mrs. Sibley nor the woman that was there before her could hear or see anything to alert them to the carnage occurring inside the school. No smell of acrid gunpowder? No screams from children that had just experienced life changing automatic weapons fire and who had seen their friends and teachers die?
On the subject of the broken window. I had tried to find photographic evidence to show whether the glass had indeed been shattered or not. I thought I had found such evidence in the form of this high resolution photo. If you zoom in over the tops of the vehicles you can see the front windows of the school. You can also see the reflection of the outside brickwork proving the glass is not broken. Notice there are 5 sections of glass visible.
When I continued my search, however, I found this still shot from a Newtown Bee “back to school” video. You’ll notice there are actually 6 panes in all. The pane closest the door could very well have been shattered. I have no other photo evidence to prove it either way so I will have to take Barbara Sibley’s word for it.
As I write this a new video clip showing the broken front window has been brought to my attention. Here is the video:
And a screencap…
I would be most interested in knowing exactly how someone climbed through that hole without collapsing the rest of the window.
Barbara Sibley – …and as soon as those words kind of came out of our mouth we started hearing gunshots. I knew that it was gunfire but you know I didn’t, I just ran you know, I just ran.
Katie Couric – You were ushered to safety you were waiting by the fire truck and you started to see kids stream out of the building. What were those kids doing?
For some reason Katie Couric chooses to leave out a part of the Sibley’s experience that morning.
Rob Sibley, a volunteer firefighter from the Sandy Hook ladder who had an 8-year-old child at Sandy Hook recalled how his wife, Barbara had been forced to take cover behind a rubbish skip after returning to the school to drop off something her son had forgotten.
“She called me and said there was a shooter, said that she loved me. I said to her ‘stay low, stay safe. Someone is coming to get you,”
He recalled on a local radio show, before dissolving into tears at the memory of what he nearly lost, and the suffering of the friends and neighbors who were so much less fortunate than himself.
Barbara Sibley – Well it was, it was all sorts of things. I mean first of all they were amazing in that they were all like, staying in a single file line. Their teachers were at the head of the line classroom aides were kinda strewn in between and, and, they were walking very quickly but they were staying in a line and the teachers were very much you know, very focused on their jobs. I was so single mindedly focused on seeing like, my sons teacher, because I knew if I saw my sons teacher then hopefully, god willing, my son would be in that line coming out.
In all the police audio to which I have listened the only groups being brought out of the school were all led by police officers. That includes the famous Newtown Bee photo. And we only have one photo of any adults at all evacuating the school.
Photo credit: Shannon Hicks/Newtown Bee
Katie Couric – And then you saw him.
Barbara Sibley – And then I saw him. And I saw Daniel and I knew, I’m like, I don’t want to make him hysterical, I don’t want him to see me hysterical with relief you know, that he’s there. So I just waited for him to come to me and then I went over and I said “Hey Daniel how are you?” “Mom”, he’s like, “what’s going on?” I’m like, “it’s just crazy isn’t it?”
He asked her what was going on but she didn’t ask him? She wasn’t the least bit curious about what had just happened in the school? Her son didn’t appear deafened by the barrage of gunfire just unleashed within the confined space of the school?
Barbara Sibley – I gave him a big hug and I said well I’m gonna walk you down to the firehouse and he said, “ok come on, come with us ok.” So I held his hand and…
Katie Couric – And you have twins who are in that kindergarten class but they’re in the afternoon program.
Barbara Sibley – Thank god. My twins are in the afternoon kindergarten yes, so they weren’t in the building they were safe at home. So that was a blessing.
Katie Couric – You must feel so lucky.
Barbara Sibley – Yes, yes that’s uh, overwhelming relief, luck, grace I mean uh, yes, absolutely.
Katie Couric – Rob you got to the scene and your wife was ok but then you had the job of going into that school.
At this point Ms. Couric is trying to lead us to believe that a) rescue personnel were allowed in the building and b) that Mr. Sibley would have been one of those people. Neither of those insinuations is correct.
We have no reports of any medical rescue personnel entering the school and Rob Sibley is a volunteer firefighter, he is not a paramedic. Furthermore, he makes no such mention of entering the building in the rest of the interview or in any interviews I have read.
Mr. Sibley is also an employee of the Town of Newtown.
Land Use Agency Deputy Director of Conservation
Robert Sibley. Powers and duties: Enforces Conservation Commission and inland wetlands regulations, is responsible for implementing and enforcing land use regulations.
And he is one of only 3 representatives from the Town of Newtown to have attended a 45min meeting with former Arizona congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, her husband, former astronaut Mark Kelly, Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) and Lt. Gov. of Ct. Nancy Wyman.
Rob Sibley – When we arrived at the scene the emergency services were set apart from the officers on the scene and those brave men women were protecting Barbara and the children who hadn’t emerged yet because we were still in a lockdown mode we didn’t quite comprehend what was happening. We knew…
Katie Couric – You didn’t know if the shooter was waiting somewhere…
Rob Sibley – Was alive or had been killed or was dead by some other means. And it wasn’t ‘til we got word that there might be deceased inside and that actually some of the firefighters relatives might be deceased inside that we realized that we needed to bring this to a new level.
This is interesting commentary from Mr. Sibley. He was unable to see any outward signs of the carnage that had taken place? No blood? No bloodied, frightened children? Also, somehow, amidst all the chaos, and long before any victims had been identified or medical personnel were allowed in the building, they already had a sense of who had died? And what is this “level” of which you speak?
Katie Couric – When did you realize what you thought was a rescue operation was a recovery operation?
Rob Sibley – Those men and women from the state and from the town and from other local law enforcement had been holding their ground at the front of the building. When he came over he had a tear in his eye and we looked over and we saw those people who looked like they could handle anything, with the armor on, and being able to handle a situation that they’ve probably done before, fall down on their knees and start weeping. It was the denial. We’re going to be treating these adults. These, maybe parents that came to work or maybe the teachers were taking to another area, and then it began to dawn on everyone that these were children also.
Katie Couric – How do you move forward from just experiencing the sheer, I guess, devastation of knowing that there were children in there that you couldn’t help?
Or from having to stare into my dark, soulless eyes for half an hour?
Rob Sibley – I do believe that through tears, and through sharing and through comfort and support that there will be a bright day. The first night I came home I asked Daniel, “do you remember anything do you want to talk about anything?” And he said, as only an 8 year old can see, through their eyes that “the badness is gone. The man is no longer here and that a new day is tomorrow.”
Yeah. Sure he did.
In my opinion the comments by Mrs. Sibley in this interview call the entire timeline and severity of the Sandy Hook event into question. Unfortunately, since we’ve been given scant amounts of information it is difficult to place that question into precise minutes and seconds.
I’m including this series of videos because they pertain to the subject matter and…they made me laugh. Something I’ve done little of since beginning to research this event.
Sandy Hook Witness
I have found a video, included at the end of my Scene of the Crime article that shows my confusion regarding the vehicles is unfounded. It seems the dusty photo I thought was the “before” is actually from the next day (15th).
To show I am a swan of my word I am here to correct my error and ask that someone please help me out of this tree.
What are your views on the Sandy Hook Witness accounts? How did you perceive the Barbara and Rob Sibley interview with Katie Couric? We would love to hear your thoughts!